Rank #1 In Google With No Work!

02 Dec 09 5:42 pm

usually sites like that use black hat methods to get their rankings. It usually does not last long. as the 'Search engines adjust their algorithms these sites have to continually find dew ways to stay on top. In actuality, It does not take much to beat these sites in rankings, and they actually wind up working harder over time than if they do it right.

02 Dec 09 7:34 pm

Hi Beldin

I have seen this teqnuqie several times. If you add a link to the blog roll on your blog/site, Google will count every url from your blog/site as a single page and the link from the blog roll is a new link to your site every time you post something new (because the blog post gets its own url). But I dont know how effective this link building strategy actually is.

02 Dec 09 8:33 pm

Oh I'm not worried about backlinks.... I think they have merit but are not the be all and end all of this game.

I am CONFUSED at why that site is ranking so high... there are a lot of examples of this on the web. I'll keep my eye on the ones I've found and see if they move down over the next month or so. If not... I dunno what to think. LOL

03 Dec 09 4:25 am

Hey Beldin,

I don't see why you are frustrated. It looks to me that you have found a niche that with inept competition that it would be easy to rank in...... Checking out the site, the page copy is not bad. Here is the formula that I use and it gets results:

I put the keyword phrase in the top and bottom of the on page copy and about 5% in text. Also use it for title, h1 tag and at least once in description. Also get the top directories.

Just that above can give you top 5 results in google with no other work if it is very low competition.

The site you mentioned does not even seem to have full meta tags.. only title tag??? But like I said, the page copy is ok for those keywords, just not very long. The site is ugly, but my experience has been that ugly text rich sites dominate the organic results.... My question about this niche would be: Do you really think there can be an information product that would work to solve the problem???

Don't start second guessing your SEO, I don't think you will find the pages that are further down have better optimizations and backlinks.

By the way, about having a bunch of links from the same blogsite. It does NOT help much because google only counts backlinks from the same IP once.

Best Regards,
NOOB

03 Dec 09 12:29 pm

Hey guys,

Between on page seo and offpage seo, offpage (ie. getting links from other sites to your website) is the MOST important.

About this website, there is not a lot of competition:

When I typed without quotes, I got this: Results 1 - 100 of about 82,800 for sweaty armpits

When I typed with quotes, I got this: Results 1 - 100 of about 39,000 for "sweaty armpits"

And finally, when I typed with the modifier allintitle, I got this: Results 1 - 100 of about 7,740 for allintitle:sweaty armpits

It's super easy to rank for a keyword like that, and the fact that it has the word in the domain helped a lot.

Yes Stephen, having the keyword in the domain helps a lot (for low competition keywords like this one)

Those type of sites are short lived, even if he makes money with adsense.

What is funny is that Google keep changing its algorythms, and people want to game the system. But at the end, they lose.

What I suggest is to focus on quality sites that will not disappear with the next Google update.

From 2010 and beyond, the word is quality. I strongly believe that it will be more and more difficult to earn a full income with "bad quality" websites.

Heck, even ezinearticles.com started "slapping" writers and affiliates for poor quality articles... and I'm sure you heard about the latest FTC guidelines.

Make sure to be quality sites.

All the best,
Franck

04 Dec 09 9:24 am

I never said anything against that.

On page seo is important as well. but offpage is the most important (that doesn't mean that you shouldn't do onpage seo). I don't know anyone who claim this.

Regards,
Franck

thenewb wrote:Hello Frank,

I guess off page is more important, but if you don't do the on page correctly, then the off page is not going to help you much unless you get 10,000,000 unique IP links with your keyword phrase for the anchor..... (adobe "click here") So, on page is mission critical IMHO.

Just my $0.02, take it for what its worth.

04 Dec 09 11:47 pm

for sweaty armpits, an allintitle search shows just 6,650 results. This is a very small niche and so really not hard to rank #1 for.

The global monthly search volume for 'sweaty armpits' keyword is 14,800. For an exact match is only 4,800. So it's a small niche.

When you combine social presence with legitimate backlink methods it would be very very easy to rank #1 in that small niche.

The top method I use to increase search engine ranking is creating backlinks by building a block of sites with automated rss feeds for content, and links at the bottom of each page. The link placement is really important. It's not in a blogroll, it's at the BOTTOM of the page. It's legitimate, and its on domain names that are carefully chosen appropriate keywords. This is a lot of work though!

05 Dec 09 6:04 pm

oops I did mean "off-page" seo in my last post :)

Sorry to offend you Beldin my frustrated friend. I'm just trying to share my experience that an awesome backlinking strategy is going to get you those top google rankings and your site can be ugly as crap or whatever you want to call it because that's just the way this SEO game works right now. Consider to have minimal on page SEO as well (I think thenewb and superaff said it best). This is what I have found with my sites.

Hopefully you can clear your confusion and just go start backlinking so you can be analyzing your site in the Top5 rankings, from where you can provide the world with good value (and therefore merit your profit) rather than analyze someone else's ugly site about whatever hogging all the action. Good luck and all the best of success to you!