Affilorama vs Wealthy Affiliate...Any Thoughts?

28 Apr 09 9:31 am

Morning weblife4u

I too am a WA member and can understand where youre coming from. However, in my opinion, Affilorama and AfilloBlueprint 2.0 are easier to follow and understand. I'm not saying that they are better but I have learnt more here in the last 6 days than in the last 6 months at WA but that is probably just me. What I plan to do is use AB 2.0 as the foundation and then apply WA after.

AB 2.0 takes you through step by step and that's the best way I learn so it suits me perfectly. You can always rejoin WA, say after six months, if cash is tight. But I suspect you might not need to.

If you do join Affilorama, do let me know and we can hook up. I am going to buy AB 2.0 on Friday.
I am an Affilorama Premium member.

Warm regards Ian UK

28 Apr 09 11:16 pm

I think WA make good stuff, and they're one of the more respected "schools" out there.

But if you're understanding the material but failing to see how it all "pieces together" then AffiloBlueprint is for you. We're not just throwing a whole bunch of lessons and knowledge at you and asking you to make sense of it yourself. We're actually showing you what to do each and every week.

We also tell you why things are important, and what purpose they serve, but mostly we're telling you things to DO, not just things you should KNOW.

I think that's the difference between AB and a lot of other courses out there. You just need to follow what we do, and the understanding will come later :)

Plus AffiloBlueprint has a whole lot more Aletta in it... and WA doesn't have Aletta at all ;)

29 Apr 09 12:46 am

Niche Blueprint is about building an e-commerce online store to sell physical goods.

It's completely different to affiliate marketing: In affiliate marketing you only PROMOTE other people's good (usually digital goods like software) and you receive a commission when you refer a sale. You don't need a shopping cart or anything like that.

It's a completely different business model.

I think for a newbie to internet marketing, starting out as an affiliate is a safer bet. You don't have to do the selling yourself... you just send traffic to a merchant site. But it's up to you. Some people really can't wrap their head around it, but it's a really good introduction to internet marketing in general. You'll learn a lot of things that will help you if you decide to pursue a different method later on.

If you're going to get started with affiliate marketing I really think that AffiloBlueprint should be your first stop. It's going to sound biased because I'm staff here, and because I helped to make AffiloBlueprint, but I really don't know any other products that start right at the beginning and follow such a logical progression right through to the end.

We completely revised the old version based on the experiences of the last batch of people to go through. Answering lots and lots of forum questions and support tickets gives you a really good idea of the areas where people have problems :)

I think it's awesome. And $197 might sound like a lot of money, but it is extremely well-priced compared with most of the other programs you can buy out there. And there's the instant money-back guarantee if you don't like the look of it.

Ok, that's enough of a sales pitch :)

29 Apr 09 4:54 am

HI Everyone...I just joined and I've also been in WA...I found it very helpful as an introduction to Internet Marketing but as Shalisha said the lessons tend to be distracted and not to the point...I think that Affiloblueprint resembles a little to a workshop I took at the Warrior Forum with Kevin Riley, a very professional internet marketer, in a way that is step by step...well at least that's what I think.
I am looking forword for the learning process here...
Take care and best for all

02 May 09 2:29 pm

I have blueprint and I will tell you that I think it is the best thing I have ever been a part of. I have built my first site (still adding a few articles) and am working on building more.

I canceled EVERY other program I am in because I was given advice as follows:

Stick to ONE THING and before moving to something else, wait until you are successful at that one thing.

Mark shows us how to do it. I'm sticking with this and only this program.

Chrisi

03 May 09 8:07 am

I, too, am a member of both WA and AffiloBlueprint. I forgot when I joined cause I did a week's worth of lessons in a day and am in the midst of doing week one's homework. :-) I am also doing some bum marketing at the moment. I think both programs are good. I have had some success with WA doing mostly bum marketing because I was too afraid to jump into the PPC boat and build a website. In short, I have built a website with the help of WA and another product, but haven't gotten it off the ground as of yet since EzineArticles rejected my article (I wrote a honest review of a crappy product, and they didn't seem to like that too much). Then, I was sitting around thinking that WA didn't offer enough for me to get this off the ground.

One of the things that convinced me to check AB out is the fact that successful online entrepreneurs will eventually have to learn to build sites and stuff, so I thought I should cut to the chase. This program seemed to be geared specifically to that purpose, which is what I needed.

I am glad I am a member of WA, though because it's where I learned about bum marketing, and if it weren't for some of the members in the forum, I would have probably given up. You also have to stay a member of WA to promote it, so if you are promoting it and making good money, I wouldn't cancel. I have also noticed that some of the most successful WA internet marketers are members of both. I think it's a case of "different strokes for different folks," so to speak. It's like they always say, "It's not what you say but how you say it." Thus far, I think I prefer Mark's teaching methodology over that of WA, but I am "a classroom learner," so to speak, which is what this course reminds me of.

Although I have only gone through week 1 and make sales with bum marketing fairly easily, keyword research has been my weak spot. It wasn't that my keyword research method was wrong. It was more like it was flawed or incomplete. For instance, I have never broken down similar keywords and grouped them into a list and chose the highest traffic-getting keywords for each topic. I would skip this step, which is why my articles have such similar keyword phrases and I seem to rehash the same thing over and over again in different words. I now know this is wrong. I'm sure it's in WA, but for some reason, it just didn't click for me there like it did here. Lesson learned.

04 May 09 10:29 am

I have both AffiloRama and Wealthy Affliliate. I think Mark and team put together a better product. That's not saying WA isn't a good.

04 May 09 9:02 pm

I have both too Spunky but will be letting WA go today

Yeah, I was kind of leaning the same way. I already have it written out of checkbook so I figure it would make good outsourcing money. The only reason I haven't is because I've been hitting it fairly hard as an affiliate lately and kinda want to see where it goes.

05 May 09 3:19 am

I mirror most of these comments, I was a WA member up until two months ago, I have absolutely nothing bad to say about WA, they do an amazing job there. However, the style here is so CLEAN, WA throws quite a bit at you in an organized way, but for me it was very tough to put it all together, after 18 month I threw in the towel. I ended up making $2K through the methods taught there and with the time I could apply to make thing work, but in the end, I really need a COACH, I need that filler to cross the chasm from point A to C.

I constantly feel like I am on the edge of blowing affiliate marketing wide open, yet I have a hard time closing that gap, I contribute a whole lot of what I've learned about affiliate marketing to the guys over at WA. But I could find that missing link that ties it together, that's why I am here.

No doubt, I believe this is possible. My main goal is to focus here and master this blueprint to produce PREDICTABLE and A REPEATABLE INCOME, DAY IN AND DAY OUT. From everything I have viewed so far, Aletta and Mark bring the personality and understanding of affiliate marketing and keep me motivated to keep trying.

05 May 09 4:57 pm

I'm also a member of both WA and Affilorama. To use an analogy, if you're looking how to bake a cake and want to just get into it rather than read all about the theory of baking, Affilorama is the winner - hands down.

WA has a vibrant community forum and some good content but the value provided here with the Blueprint is outstanding and really all one needs to get started.

The other MAJOR difference is the responsiveness of the staff here. Any questions directed at Mark or Aletta are responded too promptly and that really gives the sense that they actually care about our success.

That's just my 2 cents - now back to baking my cake....

06 May 09 6:50 am

Agreed! In Marks teaching he talks about people who jump around buying one program or course after another without ever really applying it. I've been doing Affiliate Marketing for about 5 years now and bought tons of materials. I've applied them all. Never have I been more excited to implement what I've learned in Affilo coupled my own experiences and techniques.

13 May 09 4:29 pm

Hi,

Just read your post. I too have been a member of Wealthy Affiliate for over 8 months. I quite because I couldn't seem to get off the ground - good info but I just couldn't put it all together (step 1, 2 .....) There seemed to be too many gaps. After two plus weeks with affilorama and after purchasing affiloblueprint -- for me this seems to be the way to go. It seems better organized, down to earth, gives all the info that WA did + fills in the gaps. Also membership to affilorama non-premium is free with lots of info. Mark is more generous and is a proven success at what he teaches.

Just my opinion. ---- Hope it helps
LOL in your decision.

Betty

15 May 09 12:28 am

I am a member of both WA and AB. First of all, calm down. I mean, seriously. There is no need to be scared. WA is totally legitimate and does work. It's how I got my real start (minus the paid surveys and all that other stuff) in internet marketing. Follow the WA 8-week action plan. There is a lot to learn and WA is a good place to learn. I mostly like WA for teaching the free traffic and promotional methods and the research tools. There are lots of people making $1,000s/month just using free methods as a way to build up capital to invest in websites, PPC and so on. You also have to stay a member of WA in order to promote it. There are people making $1,000s/month just promoting WA.

Although WA does teach you about PPC and Google adwords, when it comes to build a website from start to finish, I needed more. That's why I like AB. Getting a landing page ranked in the search engines is a lot easier than getting a website ranked (in my opinion). I have not been a member of AB for long (about two weeks), but I can tell you that some of the stuff (that I have gone through so far) is the same stuff you learn at WA. You know the saying "It's not what you say but how you say it"? Well, I think that is one of the differences between WA and AB. They are two sides of the same coin. They might present different ways or strategies for doing something, but the end result is the same.

I also know for a fact that some of the most successful internet marketers on WA are also members of AB. I have not explored Affilorama premium enough to know what kinds of stuff they have in there. Oh, don't forget to follow the 8-week WA action plan. The first thing to do is find a profitable niche. A niche is a group of people who have a problem or want to learn how to do something, are unable to find a satisfactory solution to their problem (it's your job to provide them with one), and a group of people who are willing to pay for a solution to their problem (i.e. people who want to lose weight, people who want to learn to play guitar). WA's and AB's strategies for doing this are somewhat different. I actually prefer WA's methods when it comes to finding a niche. I hope this helps some.

Joey

16 May 09 4:51 am

chuawenching wrote:Hi Joey,

Thanks for that. Let me finish my 8 weeks action plan. If I happen to earn some money along the way, I can cover Affilorama courses too, since it is not open for blueprint 2.0. Probably wait for that.

Thanks again.

Regards,
Wen Ching

Ur more than welcome. :-)

Joey

18 Nov 09 11:28 pm

Hi Everyone - I have just found this site and the very first topic in the forum I see is Affilorama/Blueprint vs. W.A. This has just answered 50% of my problem. I have been with W.A. for 6 months and I'm almost as lost as I was when I started. There isn't a real "Step 1, Step 2" type training and like someone earlier mentioned, there are sooooo many additional links with all the lessons that I fall off target. It has been very encouraging reading some of the posts. I'm having a hard time with honing in on a niche. Any advise would be welcomed.
All The Best
Linda Stephens (Exit Nine)

26 Nov 09 4:15 pm

I have been a WA member for a while now and have nothing bad to say about them, but now that I see what affiliorama has to offer, in my opinion they are better. When ever I asked a question to any of the 2 owners it took at least 3 days to get back to me and their answers were always no more than 1 sentence. I understand they are busy but thats unacceptable.
The 2nd reason I'm switching is because of all the tools here are better than WA

26 Nov 09 11:40 pm

I too left WA today and teamed up with Mark. I have been at this for a while, and somehow he sneaked by me for a long time. I actually discovered Affilorama doing some keyword research from the WA website and here I am. WA is a good program, I just got a little bored with it.

17 Dec 09 3:57 pm

I was a member of WA. I have to thank WA for introducing me to the world of IM in general. If you are a newbie WA is very good. But in my opinion Affilorama tells you how to do things step by step and takes you to another level. Mark's video's are invaluable.

I was referred to Mark Ling from another Internet marketer who is very successful and has literally "made it". One thing she said which is totally true is you want to learn from someone who "walks the walk", not just talk's the talk.

So far I am very pleased with my membership and Mark Ling is an excellent teacher. Well done mate.

29 Dec 09 5:54 am

Hello
Quick question, I'm a newbie to the affiliate world.
My question is what is the difference between Affilorama and Affiloblueprint ? For a newbie starting which of the 2 programs I should select first ?

Thanks for your assistance.

Neo

29 Dec 09 10:29 pm

Hi Neokanobi

Affiloblueprint is just that,....an attempt to lay out everything you need to know to get some income started fast.

Well I shouldn't say it's everything because that can't be done,... but from what I hear it shows you what to do.

A blueprint or complete instructions is exactly what most newbies are looking for and in the greatest need of.

When you start a new job where you will be expected to accomplish a goal for somebody, you are 1st walked through the site, then shown the tools you will be using and shown what the end result will look like. (Hopefully).

Same goes here.
Once you get that knowledge and experience down pat you won't need anyone else to hold your hand anymore.
At that point you are considered a pro or at least capable to do it on your own.

But it's hard to know which way to go online because of all the choices and talk, isn't it.....

You should look in the Warrior Forum and their WSO, (Warrior Special Offer) area and get a feel for who has the best feed-back and thanks for their products.
Hint they have been active members for a few years or more and have many posts to their credit.

You can pick up some excellent blueprints there for like $10. bucks. I'm serious, $10 to $25.
Ones that really work and trust worthy testimonies to back it up.

And I'm not trying to rip Mark and crew out of a sale either because if you are not sure of whats going on then you won't get the full benefit from AB anyway.......And that is not their goal.

Man I talk to people, (online), almost everyday who are wanting to buy some cool tool that will make it all happen overnight, when the can't even use a free alternative yet.

An example is keyword or niche research tools.
If you can't even get results with Googles free research tools you are in for a whole lot of frustration if you dive in to Market Samurai, Micro Niche Finder or any of the other hundred alternative systems and try to get the same results as experienced and focused marketers.

Milk the free information until you understand enough to have a goal.
You know like .....I want to make my first $50. a month from promoting an ebook from Clickbank using free methods only.

- Now you can work backwards and ONLY research the areas of expertise that apply DIRECTLY to that goal.
- And don't look at anything or anyone that wants to distract you from that goal.
- You don't need an auto-responder or any other "Must Have" DO-Dad, whatcha-ma-callit or thinga-ma-bob that has a learning curve attached to it..

The only thing you NEED is to get to work, first learning then doing.

Hey take care and good hunting.

PM me if you want.

02 Jan 10 1:03 am

Hi Missy I had the same problem at WA but have made a few dollars in another short program before finding Affilorama I am still here and going to promote it as best found so far. I found that with the keywords and promoting at WA I had no results. after a month here I can easily see the huge missing steps in the training at WA.It still takes work and goal setting here but I can handle that. I just reread someones comment about the offers that are set to come at us in this program through their auto responder. I used to feel a lot of pressure to to complain about as well then I read a letter from Mark Ling on how he gets a lot of these people to cough up long interviews on their secrets and usually gives them up to us members free. This is a very great and powerful learning tool for free. In this way you get to know who you are buying from first and see if you trust them. You still have the option of not buying only you can benefit either way. I have seen on most courses you have to pay big bucks for this info. Here it is free and you can take or leave it. That factor left me feeling very good about being here. Bruce Mackay

20 Jan 10 7:25 pm

Affiloblueprint is a 12 week step by step video guide. (Although it won't take you 12 weeks if you get to work). You literally watch Mark and Alleta (I didn't spell her name correctly) build a website. As a newbie, I loved this because it was very detailed not only on how, buy why Mark and Alleta used a particular method. This was exactly what I needed to get my first website up and running. I followed along and got my website up in a week.

Premium Membership: This is only my first month, so I haven't fully grasped the benefits of it yet. With the premium membership you get the bootcamp which with the blueprint, you follow Mark as he builds a campaign. The bootcamp skips over newbie things such as what is affiliate marketing etc. The premium membership is designed, I believe, for those who actually know something about affiliate marketing. He does take you through the process of getting articles written for you and how to use elance to find quality people. Mark shares a lot of detail about link building. You are also shown recaps of the campaign and how the website is doing and how keywords are starting to rank. For me it is the second part of Affilobluerint. Also included are well written PLR articles in different niches. A different niche a month. And a subscription to a guide every month on improving link building, fixing duplicate content, FTP and everything in between.

If you are new to internet marketing, I would definitely get affiloblueprint first, and when you are finished implementing what you learned from that, move on to the premium membership. Affiloblueprint and Premium Membership are the only things I have ever purchased about internet marketing that I was 100% happy with. Every other guide, ebook or membership site I paid money for has left me disappointed or down right ticked off. So if Mark himself doesn't recommend a product, I don't buy it.

Hope that helps.

21 Mar 10 8:15 am

Had been with WA for several months before, but AffiloBlueprint is definitely, absolutely, no doubt so much easier to follow (and keep me focused!). The video lessons put up by Mark and Aletta are very helpful. I've received my first check from Clickbank, and now waiting for my second check. (The commissions are generated from AB style affiliate websites.) Not a great amount, but more than enough to cover for what I spent on AB. :)

29 Mar 10 6:22 am

Definite AB convert here!

WA was great until they upgraded to Platinum and turned control over to the community.

For those that still think that the forum was excellent at WA, there is just as much good if not better info at (free) warrior forum.

Just my 2 cents,

Chris

05 Apr 10 11:45 am

I would suggest Affilorama for newbies, and WA for intermediate/advanced marketers.

Both offer great information.

21 Sep 10 6:15 am

Hey Blackbearpaw

Just a quick Q that's been bugging me....with wordpress express, the hosting stuff that is on site - including the new stuff planned for later in the year - what happens when you cancel your subscription?

Do you get to keep your sites, the templates etc or is it like it was with the old WA, when you canceled you lost access to site rubix, the hosting and all the other stuff?

Cheers,
Chris

17 Oct 10 4:08 am

Joining Affilorama and purchasing Affiloblueprint was the best decision I ever made, I will continue being a Premium member as well. What I like most it the video lessons and the notes as you go along. Was just wondering if Affilorama is going to match WA with unlimited hosting and integrated wordpress, all you need is a domain and update name server...no need to learn FTP or anything like that.

blackbearpaw

15 Nov 10 10:09 pm

gon wrote:Hallo everyone I am gon here :)
I am new in marketing online. but not too newbie also. I had took course of creating Amazon minisite . and i also already success create several minisite.

i came here because my minisite did not provide constant sales. i want to compare the success using this method (AB). Actually lots of good review or success i found on the net using AB mostly come from several years ago. so I want to ask from member here is this AB 2.0 still work in nowdays (not saturated) ?
Can this method "so called of creating profitable site" using AB method can generate constant traffic or sales in now days? because my minisite just get traffic when i promote it (i use social media mostly). if i stop promote then the traffic just go down rapidly :(

thanks so much pal looks for fair review from the experience here.

cheer ,
gon

Welcome to Affilorama, Gon :)

Yes, Affiloblueprint still works and you can build profitable sites using this program. But you still need to generate traffic through pinging, article marketing, forum posting, social networking and other link-building techniques.

You could also read through these threads:
Is AB 2.0 still practical these days & my honest confession?
AffiloBlueprint - Is it still current?

06 Jan 11 9:34 pm

Welcome to Affilorama, Amit :)

I think your question has already been answered by this thread. If you read through the thread, you'll find the comments/feedback posted above really helpful. Both are actually good programs but Affiloblueprint is simpler to follow because it gives step by step instructions on how to build your affiliate site.

All the best!

07 Jan 11 10:03 pm

Actually Im a student and i dont have loads of money to invest. So after joining Affilorama do i have to invest further money to make money ?? Coz I ve realised that after joining certain programme they want us to join for another programe for certain process in the run of makin profit..As a student I wont be able to afford further money..And I dont want to be stucked at that point with short of money.That's why Im trying to get some answers from you guys.Can any1 help me regarding this or give me some suggestion how i shoud go ahead...Hope u guys understand my situation..Hope to hear from you guys soon...Thanks...

08 Jan 11 6:07 am

amitda69 wrote:Actually Im a student and i dont have loads of money to invest. So after joining Affilorama do i have to invest further money to make money ?? Coz I ve realised that after joining certain programme they want us to join for another programe for certain process in the run of makin profit...

I think Mark has several upsells after you buy AB (don't know about AJP), but you can choose to ignore them. However, you do have to invest further money to make money. At the very least:
1. Web hosting: about $10/month
2. Domain name: about $10/year
3. Autoresponder: about $20/month (optional for AB, but I think it's a must for AJP)
4. Article distribution service: $47/month (optional)

Anyway, about WA, I did join them for a while. They offer quite good materials, but you have to decide by yourself on where to start. It can be quite overwhelming since they got tons of lessons and resources. In addition, existing members can add their own lessons, so yeah, it can be quite confusing for a begineer.

12 Jan 11 12:30 am

amitda69 wrote:Ive join a programme call Acne people search https://acme-people-search.com/.And im paying $10/month for the domain name and web hosting via Global Domain International.So if I'll join Affilorama , will that same domain name and web hosting work or will I ve to set up new domain name and web hosting? Waiting to hear from you soon...Thanks

There are two hosting services on Affilorama. One is Affilojetpack hosting which is free hosting for Affilojetpack sites for one year. This doesn't offer hosting access. The other one is a Affilorama premium hosting (free for premium members).

I'm not sure if you could host your GDI domain name on Affilorama's hosting and cancel your GDI hosting or if you could host your Affilojetpack/Affiloblueprint sites on GDI hosting. Maybe you should check their terms or ask their support.

18 Jan 11 3:00 am

amitda69 wrote:So if I'll join Affilorama , will that same domain name and web hosting work or will I ve to set up new domain name and web hosting?

You are actually already a member of Affilorama and you have been a member since you joined us on 23 December 2010. You now have access to our Free Affiliate Marketing Lessons and we do not require you to set up a new domain and hosting with us when going through those lessons (in fact, that is not required even in our paid programs. Hosting with us is an option, instead). You also have access to the Free Tools and all the useful resources, such as Internet 101 and the Affiliate Marketing Glossary, that are on our site.

Of course, if you find that you want to buy a new domain as you go through the lessons, you can consider registering it through Affilorama Domains and if you also want to host your sites with us, you can sign up for Affilorama Premium which includes hosting for up to 15 websites, among other things.